These are by far my favorite all around pair of pants. I bought them primarily for early season hunting but the Grinder pant gave me enough warmth not only for early season but in early morning missions during late season underneath my waders. They are so comfortable to wear throughout the season. I wore them and have washed them and they still look brand new after 60 hunts. I love the low-profile seams, I am a hunt tech for Gore-Tex and these have become my go to pair of pants for whitetail and waterfowl season/outdoors hikes too.